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The notes below reflect a summary of the March 13 open forum discussion answer the proposed questions.

EDITING IN PROCESS

Tues. March 13, morning sessions (cmm)

James Hilton kick-off
  • It is not a crisis or cliff pushing this meeting agenda. It's an opportunity to come together and "Move the needle" towards a future that meets all of our needs.  
  • We are at a pivital moment that hangs on (digital) preservation. 
  • A 2011 Nobel Prize was awarded for those who noticed that the universe is expanding faster and faster; it is not static. In the far future galaxies that we now see will rush away so fast that we won't be visible anymore. The blackness will infer that nothing else ever existed in the universe except that matter which is immediately in front of and surrounding humans in that distant future. It is our responsibility to ensure that evidence of stars, galaxies and solar systems inform the far future.
  • We have an emerging digital preservation stack (see JH slides).
  • Where do all these parts and pieces fit together other than around the 20K price tag for support of each?
  • No guarantee that any of these layers feed into the rest of the stack (bleed between the layers); institutions may utilize parts and pieces of the stack:
    • Access repositories
    • Preservation repositories
    • DPN backbone
    • Code (that includes DSpace and Fedora)
  • What do I get for my 20K annual fee? 
    • It is an investment in collective/shared capabilities; it's more like thinking about FTEs because that's where you get "capability"

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  • makes me want to contribute more back  (need to do a little clean up) instead of working on something else (Sid from Rice)
  • we knew this day was coming – funded thru grants, at some point something needs to change – this is it – the point where we have to step up a little bit
  • distribute slides: want numbers – Tyler Walters slides 1.4 FTE – spending so little money in this area, that we need more allocated – I want to double what we spend
  • grant $s get whacked by research office – 50% taken off – can’t some of that money help the projects?
  • need to make the case that we aren’t just books and stacks
  • terminology does matter – project/product/program – maybe program is better – program that spins off projects
  • DuraSpace hasn’t broght some of these concerns sooner – need to know what the challnges are we Fedora
  • Fedora needs to be backward compatable
  • really keen to do open source except when it gets hard
  • what is the governance model – how do we make it better
  • funding modeles and ROI – we are the choir, we are making the case at our institutions
  • governanace/stakeholder engagement – project level and DuraSpace, moving from appointed to elected boards – have some people involved besides just technical
  • more communication for roadmapping - 
  • F & D community can’t sit still
  • heard fin position
  • surpised that projects are in the red and that it isn’t a problem
  • how do we get general presevation problem funded – long term access might be a better way to think about it – current $s vs endowment – and other funding for the whole stack
  • both projects are mature, dev is difuse, might not be a good dvelopmetn strategy – look at other models – consolidating resources to make pushes (like Kuali) –
  • governance – how to dev roapmap
  • developing a common pitch for provost

What do you have concerns about? (val)

  • we were told we are not in crisis, but are we really in crisis?
  • urgency – physical backlog of books vs. a digital backlog – digital resources are vulernable
  • many people on campus don’t agree that we need an IR
  • 70% or organizations resources are dedicated on physical objects
  • only 10% of our adopter community that are sponsoring – needs to be higher
  • would be good to have an easy way to get from DSpace to Fedora – maybe that is a priority of the community to work on
  • how do we make sure non-sponsors are included in community
  • multiple 20K sponsorship needs
  • deficiets of D & F are a concern, can they be resolved
  • need to support community at large, risk factors on relying on just one person
  • need more ULs here – need to broaden the base of supporters
  • shocked at how low sponsorship rate is – thought it was higher
  • donations to broad community effort  - DuraSpace – how does contributions benefit the platforms
  • excitement around FF project – not an equivelent for DSpace – possible neglect
  • same/usual suspects that contribute – fatigue – need to expand contributions (financial and inkind) by other inst.

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