Date:

Attendees: Huda, Tim, Steven, Jason, Simeon

Regrets: Lynette, Greg

BFWE 2021 debrief

  • Steven: would like to see more discussion of how to encourage and coordinate feedback of BF comments/requests. Not everyone is watching the github repository
  • Jason: notes issue of defining scope for BF, how to decide what should not be included? (even if non-breaking)
  • Question of SVDE use of Wikipedia (via dbpedia?) instead of Wikidata interesting, in particular example the description on Wikipedia was better
  • Simeon: debate about whether BF data should be open was interesting. Focus very much on library mass sharing ecosystem. Discussion seemed to miss the idea that LD should have links in as well as links out – without being open it will not be reused and we won't reap the benefits of in-links

Discovery (WP3)

  • https://github.com/LD4P/discovery/projects/2 for issues etc. 
  • Draft of a discovery plan: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zKYW7FQVVNvyd0XjjW0qWznX9PC3jbmOE6Kz_yygPjs/edit?usp=sharing
  • Research: how to go from knowledge graph to an index
  • DASH! (Displaying Authorities Seamlessly Here)
    • Dashboard design meeting kickoff notes
    • User reps D&A meeting: Expect next follow-up in August (Slides: from user reps meeting 2021-04-09 and result was "not no")
    • https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PgQi3xobsPhr9DUHU_YGeimL1OjNiiTdkiNWb36r3Gg/edit
    • Usability testing and followup for DASH: Usability results
      • Usability results, a few little things to finish up
      • GitHub issues
      • 2021-09-17: No update
        • User reps meeting went well and they planned to set up doc for others to provide feedback. Huda has questions to add to that doc but have not heard back; Huda Khan  will reach out to Lenora to ask about status. Question: are people more comfortable sending email responses versus a wiki page, etc.? Huda will offer this option.
      • 2021-09-24: Huda emailed Lenora again and mentioned option for folks to email her feedback directly.  Have not heard back yet (sent email yesterday)
  • BANG! (Bibliographic Aspects Newly GUI'd)
    • Jamboard link
    • Expect to include Works. Need to do something beyond what we already have live from the OCLC concordance data.
    • 2021-09-24: On LD4P3 web server where ShareVDE PCC data was unpacked,  ran a query listing all opus - work - instance relationships where instance has some identifier.  Results came back pretty fast but server seemed to run out of space for results (partial output file at > 1 GB).  Plan: See if CSV may make a smaller file.  Concatenate results so one row per opus, list all instances per opus, and can do further queries to build out info needed separately from original query.  Steven has provided simpler versions of Wikidata queries. Goal: A demo incorporating data from Wikidata, LOC, and PCC (whichever examples we can make work) hopefully by next week. Huda and Tim will discuss best area for Tim to focus on after D&A sprint.
  • DAG Calls
    • 2021-09-17: scheduled presenter who was going to talk about IIIF rescheduled so had open office hours. People talked about LD discovery systems list. Sources: OCLC survey from 2018 about LD systems - reviewed to find examples of systems, which was difficult. Planning to put out call to communities to ask them to help fill out list of systems that use LD in some fashion

Linked-Data Authority Support (WP2)

  • Qa Sinopia Collaboration – Support and evolve QA+cache instance for use with Sinopia
    • 2021-09-24 - Didn't meet this week. Met instead with Dave to discuss queue of issues. Will likely table most geonames issues because not well suited to finding place of publication – these requests should instead use a different authority sources. 
  • Best Practices for Authoritative Data working group (focus on Change Management)
    • 2021-09-17 - The working group making recommendations for how to express and consume change management documents continues to work on document: Activity Streams - Extensions for Authoritative Data Change Management Changes since last time:
      • add new Object Types (still under discussion) - These will identify what time of object (e.g. Person, Place, Subject, etc.) are being added/updated. Need to get some examples together – at this point, creating things that will be different for different ontologies and different authorities. Concern around representing diff. between authority object & RWO
      • add appendices for the 3 major use cases - I am working on getting collaborators for this. I wrote up the use case for a full cache as that is the LD4P use case. The other use cases would be able to work if authorities support the full cache, but not vice versa. The other two use cases are partial cache and notification system. It takes more effort for the providers to support the full cache use case, but I am hoping if the use case is clear and the benefits are clear, more of them will make this a priority.
  • Cache Containerization Plan - Develop a sustainable solution that others can deploy
    • 2021-09-24 Greg set up for load testing of the containerized QA server and will start that today.

Other Topics

  • Sinolio - Sinopia-FOLIO
    • 2021-09-17: Spring Retro and Stand-up happening this afternoon; more updates next week
    • 2021-09-24 There is Sinopia user group, should we involve catalogers in the discussion of Sinolio? Jason notes concern about cataloger capacity but we should be involved in this space.
  • OCLC Linked Data / Entities Advisory Group
    • 2021-09-24 Steven will follow-up on testing for this round
  • PCC 
    • 2021-06-25 Task Group on Non-RDA Entities headed by standing committee on standards will formally propose a list of non-RDA entity types. Steven will join and work picking up again
    • 2021-06-25 Planning group for data exchange met with meeting planned for 9/10 September: day 1 - foundational agreements including vendors (actors/profiles); day 2 - identify partnerships and tests (extending what is already happening as part of grant); also profiles group will pick up in July
    • 2021-09-03 Working on non-RDA types- we have tentative definitions for person, corporate body, family, conference, spirit, figure from folklore/legend/mythology, named animal or plant, fictitious entity, and event. We have maybe one or two more entity types to work out, then share for vetting before approaching LC for hosting.
    • 2021-09-03 BIBFRAME Data Exchange meeting - firming up schedule, including a set of lightning talks on Friday from vendors to share where they see themselves in the dataflow ecosystem... publisher, consumer, aggregator/lookup service, conversion, etc. plans for caching/linking to from.
      • 2021-09-17: BF Exchange meeting happened last week. Everyone who will be exchanging data in near future was at meeting. Slowly gaining clarity around challenges. Jeremy gave good talk about how we just need to be able to accept a diversity of data. PCC is trying to have application profiles that can be shared broadly.
    • 2021-09-17: Completed definitions for all entity types, writing examples by Monday, Steven'll start filling out K Ford's spreadsheet for generating RDF for the vocabulary so they can see it as something more than a Google Doc with lists
  • Authorities in FOLIO
    • Hope to include URIs as part of Cornell FOLIO migration, possible LD4P work
    • 2021-09-03 - folks are on vacation, but work will pick up soon to work on
      • Processing and caching Authority files
        • Determine where it will be located so that it can be modified
      • Getting ID’s in BIBs 
      • Generating Reports (spreadsheets) on changes to authorities 
      • [Possibly?] Processes for batch updating headings (table this until we meet in September)
    • 2021-09-17: Met last week. Frances has database she is using for discovery. She is going to start looking at strategy for parsing weekly Peter Ward files and updating her database. will then test whether that database can serve as source. Meeting every-other-week.

Upcoming meetings

  • https://kula.uvic.ca/index.php/kula/announcement/view/1 .  Call for Proposals - Special Issue: "The Metadata Issue: Metadata as Knowledge".  
  • SWIB (11/29-12/3) virtual again this year - No proposals submitted
  • Virtual Blacklight Summit in 8-10 November. Last year had an institutional update from Cornell; can do this again. And/or can propose a session on the LD4P discovery work. Informal CFP has gone out.
    • Huda Khan has filled out form to offer institutionals demo and possibly demo work

Next Meeting(s), anyone out?:

  • 2021-10-01: Simeon may be out, Jason will run meeting

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