Time/Place
This meeting is a hybrid teleconference and IRC chat. Anyone is welcome to join...here's the info:
- Time: 10 am Eastern Daylight Time US (GMT-4)
- Phone:
- Dial the US Number: 1-712-432-0080
- Enter Access Code: 249588#
- IRC:
Agenda
- Report on OSGi conference (Eddie)
- Discussion of FCREPO-510 reported by Willy Mene (This issue has been resolved, but the discussion about the extent to which FESL will handle AuthN is still worthwhile - Bill)
- Decision on next week's Special Topic meeting (see candidates)
- Continue forum discussion
- Review of newly-submitted issues
Audio and Chat Log
<cwilper> Fedora Committer meeting starting in a couple minutes, see https://fedora-commons.org/confluence/display/FCREPO/2009-06-30+-+Committer+Meeting
<awoods> can I skype in?
<grahamtriggs> you can skype out 
<awoods> eddie: mibbit irc client no longer works with freenode
<cwilper> 1. Report on OSGi conference (Eddie)
<bbranan> eddie: OSGi conference update
<cwilper> Eddie went to Zurich conf last week
Who attended: osgi spec folks, vendors, etc
Heard: What's coming in next rev of spec, various talks on what people are doing with it
Aaron and Eddie possibly going to Repository Fringe: http://wiki.repositoryfringe.org/index.php/Main_Page
Heard again: wrapping Fedora as a whole first, then doing individual pieces makes sense
Project Jigsaw...someone from this was at conf: http://java.dzone.com/news/java-modularity-osgi-and
SpringSource ppl at conf as well
New osgi blueprint service, part of 4.2 spec later this year, basically spring dm
<bbranan> Maven is moving to OSGi
Problems we will probably face: When is Fedora started up? You can't rely on any particular bundle to be available
<cwilper> Eddie is jazzed
<cwilper> OSGi alliance - excited about how ppl can make $ w/bundles ... this helps bring more activity to the community (paraphrased)
lots of projects moving to osgi
would help us become part of larger dev community
(from chris) recommended reading: http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-03-2008/jw-03-osgi1.html
<bbranan> eddie: getting together with Aaron to work on this the last week in July
<cwilper> also, a nice follow-on tutorial: http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-04-2008/jw-04-osgi2.html?page=6
eddie heard talk on maven-splitting-out and osgi-splitting-out. "one-to-one mapping looks fine from dev perspective, but maybe not so much for users"
users = "consumers"
heard: "insane not to have maven repo for production"
<grahamtriggs> insane not to push back to the central maven repository!! Mark Diggory did a lot of work with publishing our Maven artefacts in central, and the mechanism could be used across the duraspace sphere
<cwilper> Discussion of FCREPO-510 reported by Willy Mene (This issue has been resolved, but the discussion about the extent to which FESL will handle AuthN is still worthwhile - Bill)
<mhwood> And publish a human-readable list of artifacts, with descriptions. Don't make people hunt them down.
<cwilper> re: pushing to central, agreed, when we get there, need to push to central regularly via rsync
FESL doing authN via JAAS
3. # Decision on next week's Special Topic meeting (see candidates)
candidates: http://fedora-commons.org/confluence/display/FCREPO/Meeting+Notes
http://www.dimdim.com/
Decided: topic for next week is Code review/overview of maven work (Andrew)
http://fedora-commons.org/confluence/display/DEV/Searching+for+a+Forum
Talking about move to forum/message board
Site Bill has set up, where we're testing phpBB: http://fedora-commons.forumotion.com/
<grahamtriggs> There is a largely underused forum on dspace.org as well... maybe we should look towards an integrated duraspace forum, with areas for Fedora, DSpace, etc.?
<awoods> what forum tool does dspace use?
How does it compare with the req-list on the above wiki link?
<grahamtriggs> Fireboard - integrated with Joomla
<eddie27182> google groups vs web forum
<grahamtriggs> it probably doesn't, but I'll quite happily flag wave for trashing the existing dspace.org forum to get something better!
re: dimdim - another similar kind of thing: http://www.yuuguu.com/home
<awoods> the issue with yuuguu is the limited number of concurrent users allowed
30
<grahamtriggs> dimdim is going to cost you (not entirely clear how much), if you want to go much above that. Yuuguu does have the audio conferencing facilities (global dial in numbers) which could be useful (ie. for people wanting to dial in to this meeting!)
<awoods> where are you located, Graham?
<grahamtriggs> London
<cwilper> can add global #s for freeconferencecall.com, which is what we're on now: http://www.freeconferencecall.com/prodfreeintl.asp
<eddie27182> re: #3 above, decided to discuss maven migration at the next special topics meeting
<cwilper> discussing the top two issues here: https://fedora-commons.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&pid=10051&status=10001
<eddie27182> oops just saw andrew's comment to that effect
<grahamtriggs> ahh... I was trying to figure that out, to see if there were alternative numbers available
<cwilper> https://fedora-commons.org/jira/browse/FCREPO-509
bill noticed this while looking into fcrepo-510
<eddie27182> re: fcrepo-510, trying to decide what to do when a pid is specified in the request that differs from the pid in the foxml
<cwilper> last words: andrew will be doing a medium-sized push to trunk soon
* cwilper raises a glass to eddie
<grahamtriggs> eddie27182: reject as malformed?
<cwilper> graham: i think that makes sense...added to comment on the jira issue
<bbranan> final determination (actually on fcrepo-509) is to throw an error if the URL pid and xml pid differ
<cwilper> (meeting's over....i'll get the mp3 up on the agenda page soon)