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Agenda: 

  1. Introductions - Name and What you want to get out of participation in this advisory group

Melissa - I want to see lawyers who don't know about our business and non-lawyers who are in our business who don't have a good understanding of the issues - or create issues don't know how to deal with - I want to see these normalized skill sets. Something that is sustainable. I have been working in field for 30 yrs and I am involved in conversations in the 90s and I would love to see us build something that helps us move on. I also worry that a growing number of librarians charged with copyright guidance are not equipped or don’t have needed depth of experience.


Carla - +1 to Melissa. I worked with a campus attorney and took an introduction in law school - but if they didnt' focus on IP librarians knew more about copyright than they did. Onlline resources. A lot of librarians I encounter - unless there is a copyright librarian - don't know enough. I argue with librarians about copyright law being 10%. They get a lot of bad information. I want there to be good copyright law information out there. The people who helped me when I got started - I want to pay back the help I got. 

Rina - +1 Melissa. Since 1990s I have worked with archives, museums, and libraries - in a few countries - and it's remarkable how consistent the issues are acrsso cultural heritage. Consistent issues, varied contexts...
There are many opportunities to learn the basics. There's inconsistency in quality and how current the information is. I learned that collaboratively we can have a big impact on raising the bar. I want to see collaboration and walk across the sectors and foster more dialogue so we start tackling issues cohesively and get out of our echo chamber and have an impact discussing issues with larger IP bar and industries 

Kyle - Running copyright first responders - running it for 7 years. I want to continue to experiment reaching people that we can't reach. We are battling bad information or vague information that's difficult to apply. We can increase copyright pedagogy. I want to share lessons learned. Help with curriculum. I moved to advanced curriculum after doing basic. We can replicate the on the job training when we started. I learned by doing. We want to train them to do the work. The officialness of this - I give them a cert and a patch. This will be official. People put it on their resumes. This aids a large scale goal of advocacy. We can push agendas - we need to own this issue

Sharon +1 everyone. I am excited to formalize this network. We are part of a larger, less formal network. I'm excited about getting the support from LYR. We have been talking about the need for infrastructure. Kyle and Dave have infrastructure. But we need a network and infrastructure that serves a larger group. And now everyone is virtual and we will meet them where they are. It will help us connect the dots. We will have a stickier engagement given the environment. Ongoing support and sustainability is key. Really excited about this. With the support fo LYR getting this off the ground. 

Mikka - I'm less familiar with this group. I came into the job at the Getty Trust after Maureenn Whlen and I was her protege and learned a ton from her. I learned everything on the job. I work in museums (25 yrs) and have been a lawyer for 9 yrs. I'm about to join the National Gallery. Persoanally I'm happy to keep up to date in these issues and copyright law reforms. Section 108 reforms. Museums are not covered under section 108. What I read int he prep materials around sustainability and burn out - as in house council and needing to train everyone and answer people's questions live - it's a lot. We can't do it all. Addressing that resonated for me. 


  1. Housekeeping
    1. Communications (creating a group email), wiki, Google Drive
    2. Announcing Advisory Group - pls send link to current bio
    3. Group Agreement for setting expectations around roles, responsibilities, code of conduct, decision making, facilitation. 
    4. Meeting schedule
  2. Workplan overview and discussion
  3. Advanced topics overview - what behaviours/outcomes do we want? Let’s work backward from there (major topic for next meeting) 
  4. Duke IMLS Grant overview (inviting Dave to speak about status of grant/work)

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