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Scott - Digital library analyst. Tech lead and strategy and PM work. We're migrating to Fedora 3 right now. It's our dirty little secret! We were one of the first who put up digital content in 1990's. They are going to unplug our servers in 2019 so we have to move. No one owned it until now. 3.5 Million objects. But heterogeneity of the content is the problem. We have all formats. Our IR is DSpace. Just hired Atmire to upgrade. Our concerns are digital preservation and I had a lot of concerns with Fedora 4-5 with the file system. We're really interested in programming around OCFL. Andrew and Scott will folllow up on this ACTION.  We have been using our own custom discovery system that integrates our digital collections and ALMA, etc. Our Fedora is really a back end system. We don't use Fedora as part of discovery. Our data models are custom and are not reusable. Fedora 3 is easy to learn from an IT perspective. Anorther concern I have about Fedora 4-5 is the triple store. It feels like a career on it's own. If 3 million objects turn into 100 million triples and my triple store falls down. 

Andrew - we spoke yesterday about the key components of digital preservation

Tim - as we started looking at going to Fedora 4-5 one of our staff did some testing to find ways to reduce the number of triples. There are ways to bring those down but there are trade offs.  

ACTION - We can include the assessment in the analysis portion of the project in January. 

Scott - we're talking about investing in getting new content. We need this to scale. 

Andrew - building toward this survey. 

Scott - could we publish an article as part of project so some of the topics that aren't in the literature are present. Or a blog. 

Andrew - echoing David I want to understand if this is technical barriers or something else. 

Sayeed - I'm a part of the IMLS board and what I'm doing here has nothing to do with that board.  This is based on my experiences at Hopkins. We have gone through a series of migrations from DSpace 1.6. We're looking to move to Islandora CLAW. One point that's relevant to this grant is that Fedora 4-5-6 won't be that different. But people outside this room are uncomfortaable with versioning. Where are the user stories and use cases. Can we have an institutional persona that include the user stories and give them a path. We can't pick all of the things to do after this grant but we could pick one or two. Sense of exploration has decreased. I used to be in charge of an R&D unit with no operational responsibilities. We don't have that anymore. We have in our time wrestled with IT and we can still be explorative but the capacity has decreased. I haven't heard a lot about data in this conversation. It's a place where we can be innovative. There are huge vendors out there like Clarivate and others. They say, why do it yourself? With data it's still the wild west and the services haven't been perfected. 

Scott - research data is a big interest and that's where the money is going

Environmental Scan

David - want to get a sense of what people are challenges with and why they are migrating. 

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