11:59:50 From Michelle M. Durocher to Everyone: we are in a multiday heat wave here in the Boston area! Hope everyone is doing well! 12:01:17 From Susan Deborah Radovsky to Everyone: Hello, everyone! 12:02:17 From Christine Fernsebner Eslao to Everyone: Hello! Melting, but otherwise okay 12:02:44 From Susan Deborah Radovsky to Everyone: It is a bit soupy! 12:03:05 From Amy Eoff - Texas State University to Everyone: Howdy from Tejas! Summer is busting out all over, and we hope y'all are looking forward to some R&R during these lovely long days! 12:03:24 From Rhonda Super to Everyone: Semantic Web LibGuide: https://guides.library.ucla.edu/semantic-web 12:10:13 From Susan Deborah Radovsky to Everyone: That is wonderful! 12:11:40 From Karly (she/her) to Everyone: yes, I'm so excited and grateful for this tool! 12:11:58 From Iman Dagher to Everyone: nice tool to asses the quality of our data and locate items that need enhancement! 12:13:42 From Christine Fernsebner Eslao to Everyone: This is very cool. Is there any way to embed results into a project wiki page, and/or integrate the ORES score into a Listeria- or Integraality-generated table? (Apologies if you already said and I missed it while I was fetching coffee!) 12:14:15 From Will Kent to Everyone: Having it be queryable would be amazing too! 12:15:55 From Christine Fernsebner Eslao to Everyone: This looks so useful. Thank you! 12:17:26 From Susan Deborah Radovsky to Everyone: That should help a lot! 12:18:18 From Iman Dagher to Everyone: super useful tool Thank you! 12:18:26 From Christine Fernsebner Eslao to Everyone: Thanks! 12:19:28 From Susan Deborah Radovsky to Everyone: Are we able to try these tools out? Is there a link? Thank you for a great presentation! 12:19:35 From Adam Schiff to Everyone: Yes;, it would be great to be able to search all of the items that we created that are under a particular score 12:19:58 From Amrutha Chandra to Everyone: https://item-quality-evaluator.toolforge.org/ 12:20:02 From Susan Deborah Radovsky to Everyone: Thank you! 12:20:22 From Alexandra Alisa Provo (she/her) to Everyone: I’d be interested to hear how people are thinking they might incorporate these tools into your pilot projects (maybe too soon for that question) 12:20:33 From Karly (she/her) to Everyone: how does the item quality evaluator process properties with "unknown" entered as a value? 12:20:59 From Paul Burley to Everyone: Do you ever have an item that reaches the highest score? I was surprised that some of our items with a lot of statements still get a mediocre score. 12:21:25 From Patricia Dragon to Everyone: I may have missed this, but is there a way to use the tool to tell me which items are missing a particular property? 12:22:10 From Iman Dagher to Everyone: can this tool catch conflicting data such as different birth dates? 12:22:31 From Alexandra Alisa Provo (she/her) to Everyone: I’m sorry if I missed this in the presentation, but did the metrics come from a particular framework or citation/literature? For example, I usually go to http://dlfmetadataassessment.github.io/Framework#Metadata_metrics 12:22:46 From Christine Fernsebner Eslao to Everyone: Patricia, you may want to also check out Integraality, if you have a batch of similar items you’re analyzing/improving https://integraality.toolforge.org/ 12:22:49 From Soo Bae to Everyone: What is considered a good ORES score? 3 or higher? 12:23:06 From Adam Schiff to Everyone: How does the ORES compare to the Recoin graph of completeness on items? 12:23:19 From Christine Fernsebner Eslao to Everyone: +1 Adam’s question 12:23:32 From Patricia Dragon to Everyone: Thanks Christine! 12:24:10 From Amrutha Chandra to Everyone: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q146 12:24:18 From Mary Seem to Everyone: We tried searching who we thought would have the most complete items and the highest we found was 4.96 12:24:18 From Amrutha Chandra to Everyone: house cat has too :) 12:24:26 From Karly (she/her) to Everyone: Barack Obama is 4.96, that's the highest I've found 12:24:43 From Christine Fernsebner Eslao to Everyone: Alexandra, to your earlier question about integration in projects: I’m thinking these will be useful for assessing the results of our Boston Rock City editathon and considering future efforts to improve those items 12:25:13 From Karly (she/her) to Everyone: yes I think it will be very useful for identifying items for edit-a-thons 12:25:26 From Karly (she/her) to Everyone: you could do that with sparql 12:25:41 From Alexandra Alisa Provo (she/her) to Everyone: @Christine very cool! Yes, @Karly maybe I could use it for an upcoming edit-a-thon as part of prioritizing items for attention during the edit-a-thon 12:25:46 From Karly (she/her) to Everyone: (to identify items lacking a particular property) 12:25:51 From Cate Gerhart (she/hers) to Everyone: Is there a way to adjust what effects the score? For instance, most of us aren't putting in different languages, could that be eliminated from the reckoning? 12:26:20 From Christine Fernsebner Eslao to Everyone: +1 Cate. I’m also thinking of items where we have qualms about adding gender 12:27:09 From Susan Deborah Radovsky to Everyone: Is this what you mentioned, Lydia? https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:ProWD 12:27:09 From Karly (she/her) to Everyone: I'd be happy to post an example of a query for items missing a property to the list 12:27:30 From Cate Gerhart (she/hers) to Everyone: Yes, gender is another we might want to eliminate from our score. 12:27:42 From Iman Dagher to Everyone: Thank you! 12:28:32 From Lydia Pintscher to Everyone: https://query-builder-test.toolforge.org/ 12:28:32 From Adam Schiff to Everyone: Like the Recoin script, could there be a script that publishes the ORES score on each item as you are viewing it/working on it? 12:29:22 From Jeff Young to Everyone: SELECT ?item WHERE { ?item wdt:P106 wd:Q182436 ; wikibase:sitelinks ?sitelinks . FILTER NOT EXISTS {?item wdt:P1416 ?affiliation} } ORDER BY DESC(?sitelinks) LIMIT 10 12:29:58 From Christine Fernsebner Eslao to Everyone: Example of a sprawl query for rock groups (from a specific project) that don’t have record labels associated with them, generated via an Integraality table: https://w.wiki/3Tam 12:30:15 From Christine Fernsebner Eslao to Everyone: Sparql query (autocorrect!) 12:30:39 From Susan Deborah Radovsky to Everyone: Darn, I was already hoping there was something called a sprawl query! 12:30:52 From Christine Fernsebner Eslao to Everyone: (This uses a different approach than Jeff’s example, I think) 12:31:11 From Karly (she/her) to Everyone: for the mismatch checker, how does it retrieve data from other databases? will that be something that is set up on a database-by-database basis? using an API or...? (sorry if I missed this) 12:31:31 From Gina Solares to Everyone: @Alexandra @Christine yes! I used the item quality evaluator to get ORES scores to identify "low quality" items for a list of items for enhancement at the upcoming LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group/Wikidata Working Hour (Friday 6/11) Event page: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_LD4_Wikidata_Affinity_Group/Wikidata_Working_Hours/2021-June-11_Wikidata_Working_Hour Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NogqBh0Lsz8Ijv3gGmsnfICmlp5bWIW0epk7oqjI4dA/edit#gid=94785669 12:32:01 From Iman Dagher to Everyone: would linking between different items within statements improve the score? 12:32:39 From Alexandra Alisa Provo (she/her) to Everyone: @Gina, thanks!! 12:34:28 From Christine Fernsebner Eslao to Everyone: Is it possible to get a url for a results set from the Item Quality Evaluator? 12:34:54 From Amrutha Chandra to Everyone: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Lydia_Pintscher_(WMDE)/common.js 12:35:09 From Christine Fernsebner Eslao to Everyone: (Downloading it as a CSV is great, but makes sharing up-to-date results with others a little tricky) 12:35:58 From Brandie Pullen to Everyone: Since we can 12:36:42 From Brandie Pullen to Everyone: Since we can't take out the language identifier is there a placeholder we could put into wikidata? So it comes up as filled, but isn't really? 12:37:15 From Christine Fernsebner Eslao to Everyone: Thank you! 12:37:35 From Susan Deborah Radovsky to Everyone: Very helpful discussion, re gender. 12:38:46 From Iman Dagher to Everyone: I meant more adding relations not references 12:38:56 From Iman Dagher to Everyone: or citations 12:39:08 From Karly (she/her) to Everyone: I've noticed there are a lot of bots that add additional language labels 12:39:15 From Brandie Pullen to Everyone: Good point! Thanks 12:39:35 From Adam Schiff to Everyone: Wondering if the tool could allow searching on labels themselves rather than Q numbers 12:40:39 From Christine Fernsebner Eslao to Everyone: Adam, could you say more about the cases where that would be useful? 12:41:00 From Jeff Young to Everyone: The SPARQL tab could be used for label lookups 12:41:25 From Paul Burley to Everyone: I was going to ask if there was a lag time for the ORES score to change, but I can see that it changes immediately based on edits. (My local bridge still has a D!) 12:42:59 From Karly (she/her) to Everyone: just resharing my question so it doesn't get lost: for the mismatch checker, how does it retrieve data from other databases? will that be something that is set up on a database-by-database basis? using an API or...? (sorry if I missed this) 12:43:15 From jacob kubrin to Everyone: How does adding external IDs improve a score? Should these include references to improve the score even more? I’m not sure if I see references for many IDs yet, so am not sure if it’s normal practice. Thank you! 12:43:34 From Karly (she/her) to Everyone: being able to share a link directly to item quality results would be a great enhancement 12:43:59 From Christine Fernsebner Eslao to Everyone: No worries, Michelle! 12:45:09 From Adam Schiff to Everyone: Having adding the scripts to display ORES, I'm seeing a box "Enter a schema to check". Not sure what that is. 12:45:45 From Iman Dagher to Everyone: Does the criteria vary among the different type of items: person versus topic or published article for example? 12:46:03 From Amrutha Chandra to Everyone: For the ORES score , you may just use this - importScript("User:EpochFail/ArticleQuality.js") in your common.js 12:46:08 From Christine Fernsebner Eslao to Michelle M. Durocher(Direct Message): I wonder what we could do with this, re: ISNI 12:46:39 From Christine Fernsebner Eslao to Everyone: Amrutha, great point about the user script 12:47:31 From Christine Fernsebner Eslao to Everyone: Amrutha + Adam, I meant 12:48:05 From Christine Fernsebner Eslao to Everyone: (I think I’ve gotten stuck on this in the past) 12:48:10 From Adam Schiff to Everyone: Thanks Amrutha. I deleted the last two, and now just have the ORES score 12:49:39 From Christine Fernsebner Eslao to Everyone: Working on large-scale batches collaboratively would be amazing. It’s great to know that this is a possibility in the future. 12:50:39 From jacob kubrin to Everyone: Thank you! That makes sense to me. 12:51:20 From Christine Fernsebner Eslao to Everyone: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Schemas 12:51:57 From Christine Fernsebner Eslao to Everyone: (I gave a kind of superficial talk about this at the LD4 affinity group last year) 12:52:28 From Alexandra Alisa Provo (she/her) to Everyone: That sounds familiar, Christine! I guess that means they’ve been on my list of things to dig into for a year…haha 12:52:45 From Iman Dagher to Everyone: Yes plz 12:52:45 From Susan Deborah Radovsky to Everyone: Link to Christine’s talk! https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iFFtTuAoHpw341L_XnNqZVPYuk-0j6hKR1kwCowpXf8/edit?usp=sharing 12:53:53 From Susan Deborah Radovsky to Everyone: Which had delicious slides. Make sure you eat lunch before viewing so you don’t get hungry! 12:54:18 From Iman Dagher to Everyone: thank you! 12:55:06 From John Mark Ockerbloom to Everyone: (the personal data angle complicate things, though— lots of people in Wikidata might not want their birthdate given. I just removed the exact birthdate from my Wikidata record, for instance.) 12:55:16 From Melanie Wacker to Everyone: This was very useful. Thank you! 12:55:24 From Alexandra Alisa Provo (she/her) to Everyone: Thank you! 12:55:25 From Lori Robare to Everyone: This was excellent. Thank you so much for the tools and the presentation! 12:55:25 From Christine Fernsebner Eslao to Everyone: Thanks so, so much! 12:55:29 From Susan Deborah Radovsky to Everyone: What a useful and delightful session. Thank you! 12:55:34 From Christine Fernsebner Eslao to Everyone: It was great to have a whole session for this. 12:55:39 From Iman Dagher to Everyone: Excellent presentation and tool, Thank you! 12:56:02 From Amrutha Chandra to Everyone: Thank you for your thoughtful questions. :) 12:56:22 From Karly (she/her) to Everyone: yes, so useful, thanks to our speakers and organizers!! 12:56:22 From Adam Schiff to Everyone: Thank you! 12:56:37 From Emma Claire Marvin (she/her) to Everyone: Thank you! 12:56:47 From Heidy Berthoud to Everyone: Thank you! 12:56:48 From Angela Yon to Everyone: thank you! 12:56:52 From Soo Bae to Everyone: Thank you! 12:56:56 From Iman Dagher to Michelle M. Durocher(Direct Message): Thank you Michelle! 12:56:58 From Joy Panigabutra-Roberts to Everyone: Thank you! 12:57:30 From Nicole Lewis to Everyone: Thank you! 12:57:46 From John Mark Ockerbloom to Everyone: Thanks!